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3rd Ballade
Nietzsche describes Chopin as closely following traditions and his works as a pure ode to beauty: “The last of the modern composers to behold and worship beauty...Chopin – no one before or after him has a claim to this epithet – Chopin possessed the same princely nobility in respect of convention as Raphael shows in the employment of simplest, most traditional colours - not with regards to colours, however, but in regards to traditional forms of melody and rhythm.”

I disagree with Nietzsche and wouldn't describe Chopin's works as to “behold and worship beauty.” His works possess an enormous power and a cry for revolution hidden under their beauty. To quote Schumann’s beautiful designation of Chopin’s power : "For if the mighty autocratic monarch in the North [the Russian Czar] could know that in Chopin’s works, in the simple strains of his mazurkas, there lurks a dangerous enemy, he would place a ban on music. Chopin's works are cannons buried in flowers."

The 3rd Ballade is a combination of beauty and power, a story of love and betrayal. The first half of the piece is characterized by a rhythmical movement that is flexible and yet stable ; flexible through its dancing quality and stable thanks to its strong  first beats.  The C sharp minor modulation illustrates a break in faith. At this point, the piece also loses its rhythmical stability and is characterized by a movement of suspension through the syncope  and  missing first beat, thus creating an agitated and desperate movement. When the first beat comes back, it is in the form of a rebellious and disillusioned  dissonance. To borrow from Cortot, the entire ballad could perhaps be described as under the phrase:  “Will you love me forever?”
Dear Edna,

I am back in THINQon!

As usual, I am struck by both the intelligence and the sensitiveness in your  posts (like in your interpretations!) that enables  music  lovers  and/or amateur pianists to question and enrich their approach to music. And what you say about  the 3rd Ballade is very interesting and enlightening    “A rhythmical movement that is flexible yet stable, flexible through its dancing quality and stable thanks to its  strong first beats” makes  me think about rubato, one  of Chopin’s characteristics, something new he brought to musical expression. Liszt gave this  famous metaphorical  definition of rubato illustrating this idea  of stability and flexibility : “Look at the trees : the leaves and twigs are swayed about  by the wind, but the branches and trunk stand firm”.

 In the  post “Bach’s equivalent  in painting”, I remember, quoting the  poet Novalis to express a similar idea, “In a work of art, chaos  must shimmer through the vail of order”.

I like very much Chopin’s Ballades and , of course, Edna, since  you were  lucky  to work with  Krystian Zimerman (whose Chopin’s Ballades  wonderful CD  I have), I would be curious  to know if, consciously or unconsciously, Krystian Zimerman’s teaching or approach to Chopin rubbed off on you and how?

As for Nietzsche’s quotation “a pure ode to beauty”, curiously, I do not really see  a big contradiction with what you say. All indeed depends on the definition one  has of beauty. For me, chaos and  revolution are  firmly and intimately associated with the idea of   beauty. They are an inner part of beauty.


As for what Nietzsche says about Chopin’s aesthetics in respect of convention and traditional forms  of melody and rhythm, I partially agree. He complies with traditional forms in some extent but he brought something new...and revolutionary to expression and technique for piano (rubato, a use of ornamentation, polyrhythm, virtuosity... different from what was done before)

And whereas  revolution and heroism are usually associated with Chopin’s virtuosity, you are so right to mention through Schumann’s quotation that they are present in the simple strains of his mazurkas as well.

 I am looking forward to listening to  your Chopin as I am looking forward to listening to your Mozart with Auvergne Orchestra. Do you know when these two CD will be released?

Edna, I would have one suggestion concerning your website : could  you  update the page about your concerts? :)
Dear Edna,

I'm often thinking of the deepness of your post on the 3rd Ballade. I heard again this morning your so sensitive performance in your last CD, a performance so moving, reflecting, as you explain, a inner strength beyong the sweetness of some sentences.

Considering the relation between Nietzsche and the music, it seems so complicated, thath it is almost impossible to understand. On one hand, Beethoven, for him "the first romantic" and Chopin are the representatives of the pure beauty, which may preserve
the humanity from the degeneration described by him in the modern music, starting with Wagner. On the other hand, he is considering the music, among others arts but in the first position, as the main force which can withstand the nihilism gaining the modern world: in this case, he should have seen the strength of the Ballades, and not only their romantic style.

It is noticeable to see that Gide and Nietzsche are highlighting the same risk; with almost the same words, Gide saying in "autour de Chopin": "la musique s'achemine vers une sorte de barbarie.Le son, meme exquisement degage du bruit, y retourne."

Because of those risks, we need more than ever to come back to Chopin. Thank you, Edna for your 3Ballade, which will stay in my memory.
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