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Animus, anima...
Jung had a famous theory that every man has an "inner woman" and every woman an "inner man." These are the anima and animus respectively. I've just come across a respectably tattered copy of Integration of the Personality (which reminds me...) and thought it might be worth finally understanding what he meant.

To start off -- before any Jungian theory, unless someone is an expert and would like to share -- I was trying to understand where, if at all, such a theory might arise in my own life experience, so thought of asking all of you. Does this idea of an "inner person of the opposite gender" resonate with you? Does anyone feel that they have "masculine" or "feminine" traits which they conjure up or encounter from time to time?
Books Discussed
The integration of the personality. Translated by Stanley Dell.
by Carl Gustave (C.G.) Jung

Yes it does resonate and knowing within myself something of the manner in which these traits are generated I think they are partly hardwired and the rest elaborated on by experience; a kind of using my feminine traits to understand women or things in the world that require that kind of understanding, and through that usage, being reinforced and developed. I suspect very few men would confirm this as there are social pressures not to do so and also some mayn't be self aware enough to do so; also a result, in part, of social conditioning. Some examples. A sensitivity of feeling, e.g. I read and write poetry, a feeling can hit with a physical force if I let it, (the same is true of ideas without emotional content), most of my friends are women - I tend to find most men "thick", some notable exceptions but they're not easy to find. One was a Russian policeman I knew (who didn't understand Akhmatova well enough so had to become a policeman!), another who was a doctor (plastic surgeon), another a mathematician (who wasn't that keen on maths). That sensitivity encompasses characteristics like kindness, gentleness, patience and so on. Also an insight into the feelings of another.  The patience is manifest in activity, for example technical projects also with people. However for the first two - more problematic, the feeling is there but censored because they appear odd in social contexts. A great example would be when Natalie Wood was in a restaurant and casually adjusted the hair ribbon on a little girl whom she barely knew. It shocked onlookers a little because it was so familiar and indulgent. I, too, have that kind of feeling but hell would break loose if I acted upon it. I am conscious of always suppressing these feelings, not that they are raging or anything like that, just a quiet insistent voice that says, "here is what you are, here is how you can be in the world and were you to act so, this world would be a better place for it..." I flew aircraft and also practiced martial arts. A kinesthetic sensitivity was present there that I trace to the feminine; a physical sensitivity an awareness of the need for a perfect landing so moment of ground contact is not felt. Or a strike to a nerve bundle is more effective because both the feeling of that and the effect is better known. Both much more enhanced compared to the brute force present in much of "maleness". Some of the finest martial artists I know (they are world class) have such feminine traits. But all that said I am definitely a male. I just cared to pay more attention to the "other side", if you will. Some of the traits are based on the "good" parts of my mother who was exceptionally sensitive, in a way that wasn't good for her. Other men I know took on the bad parts of their mother with sometimes really bad results. Women have noticed that I can sit in a room and describe what others (including them) are feeling, again that is related to this, but not entirely because that depends on accurate observation of facial expressions and body gestures. That ability exceeded their own and I've only met perhaps less than a handful of women in my time who could better that although that was many years ago and one's skills improve with age. I believe that women still have skills I don't have and so spend time talking to and questioning them, so much so, it almost annoys them(!) Overall the feminine traits are useful to have but not always because one knows too much sometimes and that can be misunderstood as unusual responses are in relation to a forthcoming scenario I anticipate and so it is judged as "not normal". Sometimes very difficult to explain that or even explain it away. It took me many years to fully understand how I operated, as if an instruction manual was missing from birth. Knowing too much of this and also being male can result in overthinking things. However that is offset to a considerable extent by a perhaps male capacity to separate (and vary the distance between) emotion and feeling which sometimes shocks people with a coldness where great warmth was previously present. I read Jung a long time ago and was disappointed in him. The ideas look good at first but overall the meat just isn't there and some of the ideas are ridiculous. But that said, reading and reflecting can occasionally lead to interesting results or fruitful insights. One thing I might add is that the absorption of the feminine in a man might be part of a desire for power or control (via manipulating others). I felt that but disliked it enough to mock myself for it. It appeared as a restriction on freedom, that of oneself and others. I don't mean to imply that such manipulation is the exclusive province of women, by this comment. A teacher whom I knew commented to me that he understood women (read schoolgirls in a classroom) and how to control them from reading "The Taming of the Shrew" (Shakespeare). Which horrified me. 
"Madame Bovary, c-est moi!" - Gustave Flaubert

"There's a girl living under my skin..." - Steve Tyler
As far as I remember Jung waxes lyrical about the anima but says little about the animus. It's an interesting testimony to the human love of symmetry that the impulse was to assume the animus existed even without being able to describe it, rather than assuming it didn't and waiting for complaint. Or perhaps this was simply the gentlemanly thing to do.

I can't say I feel an inner man myself, but who am I to say; maybe I'm projecting.

"One need not be a chamber to be haunted..."
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