I’ll continue then, explaining what I meant by platonic
conversation.
How does one talk to a woman with a boyfriend? Emily Andrews
in
post says:
“Are we imposing intellectual burqas? Can we admit the
possibility that a woman in a relationship
might have something of deep
value, even something intimate, to say to a man who is not her lover?
Without betraying the one she loves.”
I think there is a strange agreement of a kind of
intellectual burqa which women in a relationship wear. When you say something of value, when you
touch someone with your words, this touch is also erotic. Are you betraying
your partner by doing this? Women are in a tough spot here. While men can “intellectually”
touch women without fear of consequence, for women the moment a touch is made,
they don’t know what they are getting themselves into. The moment contact is
made, men actually demand a lot from you, hence the choice of wearing an
intellectual burqa.
This “burqa” is of course not totally by choice. Because the
different manners of touching are conflated, men dress women in relationship
with a kind of burqa where they are invisible and their words unimportant, as
they can’t
carry touch with them, hence they are immaterial. This
invisibility cloak becomes stronger the more serious the relationship is. A
boyfriend of 2 months, ok, a year is still ok, 2 years is getting touchy, and
married is close to invisible.
(I remember asking a woman to lunch/dinner only to find out
she has a boyfriend. I said that we can still meet and talk. I remember being
somewhat shocked at her own shock, and delight, at the idea. At the time it was
strange to me that she would be shocked, but nowadays I understand. Most men either
wouldn’t be interested in talking with her, or would simply mean that she can
cheat on her boyfriend.)
Women thus surround themselves with friends who are either
gay that they are not attracted to as a way to eliminate the eroticism of the
conversation, while men mostly talk with other men, and the girlfriends of
their friends.
Conversations, when meaningful, are erotic, but they can
still be platonic in the sense of no physical contact. In fact, conversations
online or by email can’t be anything but platonic, but still both sides need to
understand and accept a certain eroticism which comes from meaningful
conversations, while at the same time understand and accept that there is
nothing promised by it. The touch is but a passing touch with no commitment. It
is good if people can understand that in real life as well as the immaterial
world online.
I spoke about women in a relationship - but why do they need to be in a relationship? They might simply want to talk and nothing more. Everything I said is even more valid when they are not in a relationship but simply want a working-relationship or platonic one.
What are people thoughts on conversation between the sexes?
I added an explanation of the connection between the posts here:
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