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Dignity--National and Personal
Dignity.  It seems to imply limitations.  Defining dignity defines what we refuse to do.  Our bearing, our tack; we won’t allow ourselves to be blown off course by certain activities. 

An outsider wouldn’t consider me a very dignified person.  I’m lighthearted and playful in public, not refusing to engage in almost any opportunity to banter, make a fool of myself, lighten the mood.  I wear no status symbol.  However, I believe the dignity one wears in one’s heart is what matters.

This post concerns national dignity.  Feeling dignified is important to me, but I define it in a way that our nation as functioning entity can ill afford to.  If the nation behaved like I do we would be paupers.

The subject came to mind while thinking about Emily’s post about quitting the use of shampoo.  The widespread practice would negatively impact the job market, the circulation of money, the extraction of profit, the economy. 

We’ve gotten to a state where such relatively minor issues have become vital. 

Work and desire are bound.  Work has always been to satisfy a need or desire.  Today the desires we go to work in order to satisfy are quite vain—in the archaic sense of senseless or foolish, lacking dignity.

Our country (USA) has many good qualities.  But it’s more than a shame that their perpetuation depends to such a degree on vain pursuits such as consuming shampoo (dogfood, logo splashed clothing, etc.).  Make no mistake: we’ve gotten to a point where these things are necessary to our national survival.

Despite all the talk about our dignified Founding Fathers, behind all of it are we a silly country?  Defining what is vital, indispensible, defines the core, the heart, the soul.  Yes, there is a very dignified strand of dignity running through our history.  But, at least economically, it’s almost become a hindrance.
Defining dignity defines what we refuse to do. ~TB

There's another thread about refusal and elegance.  I think it could be applied here as well. post

Dignity and integrity are bound up in each other, I think.  I don't want to be so dignified that I give myself a migraine but I try to act my age and to think a little bit before I open my mouth.  I try to see as much truth as I can and to respond to that instead of what I first hear or see or experience.
It doesn't always work of course, sometimes the idiot in me just won't shut up.

On a national level I'm embarrassed.
It's all snake oil all the time.
I know there are dignified people of integrity out there but right now the lunatics are running the asylum.
It would be good if we as a people could stop buying into it.

Timely topic, Ted.
I don't recognize your definition of dignity which to me is the bearing of a person of worth and gravitas. I think you confuse limitations with absence of licence. Particularly since 911 America has become a nation of "wee sleekit cower'n beasties" happy to surrender any freedom to the great leader who promises to keep them safe. You accept lies in public life to the extent that truth is unrecognized and honour valueless. Remember the lawyer who queried McCarthy "Sir have you no sense of honour, of decency?"? Today he'd save his breath knowing the futility of appealing to extinct concepts. The most admired businessman in America is Warren Buffet who sees nothing wrong with his heir-apparent personally profitting from a decision to use corporate money to enrich himself. Corporations and billionaires buy politicians by the gross and scientists by the bakers dozen. Politicians lie all thru the campaign and then proceed on ideological grounds to rape the gullible who voted for them. A handful of Texas evangelicals rewrites history for the nation. Evangelicals who can't defeat abortion on demand at the polls simply murder and terrorise the doctors and staff. Media treats lies as equal to truth. The political center has shifted so far right that Nixon was a socialist.
  It's not true that minor issues have become vital but that vital issues have become minor. I had hoped that the shocks of 2007-2008 would awaken the people to an awareness that America, the exceptionally good country, has in the last 50 years become the most disfunctional democracy on earth.  The most equalitarian society has varicrose veins, developing its own stultifying royalty of wealth, privilege and power. To have dignity requires a standard of personal behavior and an awareness of personal worth. America and Americans have lost sight of what that means. Do you know the potentialities of a house divided by political passions? There is after all a certain dignity in personal death that is absent in the death of nations.

In response to william kensit
William, It’s the old, archaic definition. From the dictionary.  I enjoy going back to a word’s etymological roots.  It seems to still hold: a certain reserve underlies dignity.  Weighing a matter before diving in.  However I put a caveat on dignity.  Gravitas…  I’ll leave that to DICK Cheney.  But I think he’s just trying to recover from the stigma of his first name.  Also, I really agree with everything you say.  Dr somebody, forgive me, is this rude? I can’t take the time to go back, in the post on winning an argument, I really appreciate his remarks, says that we should be sure that we really agree and are not just disagreeing on details.  But get a load of this: I think that a lot of Americans would somewhat sympathize, with obvious reservations, with Muslim far right views.  Can we deny that we have outgrown dignity and the East has retained it—even to an evil flaw with stoic suicides?  While we ponder which brand of shampoo!  Maybe what we need is a conservative movement in the country which conserves the environment, personal choice, equality, all the while conserving what present day conservatives lay to waste—dignity, pride, a certain implied personal limit—we can NOT be so large that we forget our real size—who was it, Wendell Berry, who said something like… to know who we are we must know where we are.  And personal space is always as small as the circle of your real friends.  And THAT is dignity.  The whole masications of commerce, as it operates today, is so childish.  Not to mention the HUGE comb-over fools leaning on the levers of opinion--who are ironic followers of it, opinion.  Simply childish.  A generation ago we would have given out Cracker Jacks.  Right, Linda?  Which is not to say that our youth won't see through it all.  And become the most dignified generation, saving America... maybe the world, the planet, maybe a single little fishey with legs crawling out of the salty womb, the sea of regeneration.
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