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Is censorship acceptable when lives are at stake?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/29/technology/internet/29wiki.html
A New York times reporter, A Pulitzer prize winner, was kidnapped in Afghanistan. The times managed to not only keep it off the news, as knowledge of it might harm its reporter, they even managed with the help of Wikipedia's staff, to keep it off the reporter's Wikipedia page. Is that ok?

I'll immediately state my personal opinion - YES! I would definitely hope they would act that way, and would help them if it was in my power. But some things are bothering me here, which is why I decided to start this topic.

1. Would they have done the same if it wasn't "one of their own?"
I think we all know the answer to that - NO. That's a bit of an exaggeration. If it was an important person like the prince of England, they might have done it for a while. But for a regular shmoe - no way. I find this double face disturbing.
Would that disturbance stop me from helping them - no. Just because they're assholes doesn't mean I would want them dead, so I would help. But it is a disturbing fact nonetheless.

2.  Where do we draw the line?
There is much discussion on the censorship in Iran at the moment. What's the difference really? The Iranian government claims that information published will cause harm and death, and hence should be suppressed.  I obviously am aware that there is a difference in size, but the question still remains.

Reporters constantly report on things which the government claims will harm lives outside the country, or inside it. It is a common excuse for censorship. Personally, I many times support this kind of censorship, but the newspaper people run and claim that they should be allowed to report everything, and that in any case it is reported by the foreign press (in this case the Afghan press) so they should be allowed to report on it also.

Why then should we accept it when they perform censorship, and go the extra mile, when it's one of their own?

I would personally still help them, but should I?
Definitely an interesting topic Mike and a truly amazing story. Frankly, I'm surprised that they managed to keep it out of the media for so long.

It's most certainly a situational decision but it begs the question, how many cases like this are out there right now? And, if they managed to keep this story off the news, who's to say there aren't others being similarly kept secret. And what would have happened if the reporter and translator had been killed? Would the story have leaked fully or would they have put a certain spin on it? Is this the type of thing we should leave in the media's hand? Wouldn't the government know better? And who made the decision that the kidnapped men were better off without this information out there?

Censorship is obviously a dicey issue and what I find truly scary is the probability that there is a lot of information being kept from the public. There is literally no way for us to know except the media. So what do we do when it's the media who is doing the censoring? As you said, in this case, it was completely logical. And you're probably right, if it wasn't one of their own I'm sure it wouldn't have been kept a secret.

What I find truly amazing about this case is the involvement of Wikipedia, a supposedly completely open source of information.

 It's a scary thought how information online is so easily manipulable. It makes Winston Smith's job seem so much easier... 
Hi Mark,
I agree with everything you said. I had to check who is this Winston Smith you mentioned, who is the protagonist of Orwell 1984 (I did actually both read the book, and saw the movie).

From Wikipedia: "Winston Smith works as a clerk in the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth, where his job is to rewrite historical documents so they match the constantly changing current party line. This involves revising newspaper articles and doctoring photographs — mostly to remove "unpersons," people who have fallen foul of the party."

In a similar manner I wanted to add to what you ask that it is not simply erasing facts but also disseminating false facts, like that whole landing on the moon thing. I'm kidding about the landing on the moon, but the thing is we really don't know.  Even Wikipedia that I'm quoting bases its " facts"  on being able to be quoted somewhere, and by agreement which as we know is hardly a viable method in finding the truth. (See discussion on Truth by popularity).

Like they say in the military, there is top secret information which shouldn't be divulged, and then there is the top-top-secret information which is knowing something is false which everyone thinks is true.
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