Good comments. Context is everything, and I gave too little to focus discussion. Perhaps I should have motivated and focused things more, but I wanted to cast the question kind of wide to catch different perspectives.
This issue of patience is difficult stuff, and for me goes in a million different directions..
My immediate trigger was Sheila Bair (FDIC retiring head) article in the Wash Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/our-focus-on-the-short-term-is-holding-the-economy-back/2011/07/06/gIQAw3cI4H_story.html
which talks about the use of short-term thinking vs long-term thinking,and impulse versus patience, as the cause of financial woes big and small . Example: short-term approaches for qtrly earnings reports, and in general the focus on short-term rewards over investments with delayed payoff. This is not a novel idea of course.
I was also thinking of the Stanford marshmallow experiment which is referenced at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_gratification, where children who were rewarded for delaying the gratification of eating a marshmallow were rewarded with eating two, and those who deferred, it is asserted, were described by others years later as being more competent, and got higher SAT scores.
I was also thinking that patience, like "trust" or other attributes of the mind we use, as being something that is in some way measurable, as I have read that brain scans showed lower levels of trust in East European countries than in the West. Related is http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4397269.stm and more on interpreting fMRI at http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=five-ways-brain-scans-mislead-us.
Or measurable in terms of behavior.of individuals or groups.
Let me be more concise. If patience or lack thereof (and by implication growing levels of impatience in the general population over , say, the last few decades) is cited to be a cause of financial woes or a cause of anything else then it seems we need a way to measure that (singly or for groups) and be able to use such measurements in a predictive model.
If a general rise in impatience could be documented, or the converse, another question then is why.
I was also thinking of patience over time frames of less than a second to several minutes.More on the channel surfing short term end of things, than on the delayed marriage end of the spectrum, perhaps because I was thinking that short-term patience/impatience would then be more in accord with my intuitive notions about impatience/patience .being a state of mind associated with a particular feeling.
Now, there is the essential issue of what is meant by the terms "patience", "impulsive" and the like. It can be used as a tautology in a way-- " well she quit waiting in line because she grew impatient" to which could be replied "impatience in this situation is simply defined by her getting out of line after x time"- which may or may not be adequate.. But most people are asserting that there is a mental state she was in - impatience- that preceded and was the cause of her getting out of line.
I'll try to return. Mindfulness in individuals and in society. Economic definition of value. Schools of fish. Expectation and patience. Media and the mind (or brain if you like) and patience.
Accelerated societal change, twitter, self-location, authenticity. The kitchen sink. Patience related to persistence and other attributes.
Self-location. Ted Kacinsky.
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