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Passion?
I was reading the Booing Tosca thread and came to the word Passion.  I've been wondering about Passion lately and put this question to all of you.

Does it seem that the word is thrown around too freely?  People pop off about any old thing these days and then give you the old passion line: 'I can't help it--I'm a passionate person';  'I'm passionate about the subject'...

Passion is turning into a two dollar word and an excuse to defend petty, juvenile or destructive behavior.  Has anyone else noticed this?

You'd think (I think) that if a person really is passionate about something it would make them more articulate and focused about that passion and more motivated to impart the reason for their devotion clearly.

When does passion become pathology?
Great question Linda!
The first answer which comes to my mind is in relationships. Good passion can so quickly turn into bad or annoying passion. Yes, you are passionate, but if it's not reciprocated...
Of course people are told they should continue courting anyway which is good, but mostly very bad.

It's interesting how topics here intertwine (I used to love the word juxtaposition). There is the topic of becoming sexy and a post about it and about keeping other people passion towards you under control. Obviously, and tragically, people don't always succeed in this endeavor.

But your question is more interesting than this reply. I'll have to think more about it. In the meanwhile I'll add another juxtaposition with the topic of becoming dedicated (or more precisely Dave Robinson's take).
Linda, hilarious and true.
"Passion," like "awesome," seems to have deflated -- from a resonant word to something a bit... banal. I think we've completely lost its overtones of suffering, though you use "devotion" which has religious overtones, and that still feels right.

Here's "passion" from etymonline:
(late 12c., "sufferings of Christ on the Cross," from O.Fr. passion, from L.L. passionem (nom. passio) "suffering, enduring," from stem of L. pati "to suffer, endure," from PIE base *pei- "to hurt" (cf. Skt. pijati "reviles, scorns," Gk. pema "suffering, misery, woe," O.E. feondfaian "to blame"). Sense extended to sufferings of martyrs, and suffering generally, by early 13c.; meaning "strong emotion, desire" is attested from late 14c., from L.L. use of passio to render Gk. pathos. Replaced O.E. þolung (used in glosses to render L. passio), lit. "suffering," from þolian (v.) "to endure." Sense of "sexual love" first attested 1580s; that of "strong liking, enthusiasm, predilection" is from 1630s. The passion-flower so called from 1630s.)

I suppose we could learn a lot about the modern world from this trajectory.

The Greek "pathos" also gives us "pathetic," which people presumably are not as happy about advertising. But we don't link passionate and pathetic any more.

Maybe part of it is that any strong quality necessarily has its dark sides. Passion properly viewed as a wild, destructive force becomes something worthy of respect. The modern "lite" version of passion tries to forget this -- people insist they are passionate as a kind of misremembering of childhood, a license to throw tantrums while demanding others' unconditional acceptance and love.

I wonder how much of this has to do with the disappearance of childhood thread? Boundaries between adulthood and childhood wear thin, and many previously recognized levels of emotion collapse into one.

In response to Emily Andrews
Excellent point, Emily.  We start with the passion of Christ, His suffering and death on the Cross, and then extend that idea to the suffering of the martyrs.  We can then further extend that sense of strong emotional desire, to paraphrase from above, to the realm of romantic, and/or sexual love.  We can extrapolate, that a person may well be willing to make great sacrifices for the one he or she is romanticly or sexually attached to (perhaps even going so far as to die for that other person, if  sufficienty passionate).  Love of family, or country stirs this same degree of passion, as can the dedication to certain ideas - "liberty", "freedom" etc.  Of course, one can make the argument that certain ideas of political philosophy have taken the place of religion for many, which brings us back, symbolicly, to Christ's passion on the Cross in sense one of the word.  Politcal philosophy as modern religion is, perhaps, a topic for another thread.  From this point on, however, we have a sense of diminished returns for our passion. As with many words that originated with a religious connotation, passion has suffered in status the further it is removed from the original context, which brings us to our current use of the word to describe anything one likes or approves of.  While many music fans might claim to feel passionate about a particular pop band or singer, it is doubtful they would lay thier lives down for thier favorite singer.
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