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What to do with the Burkini?
Now that the law against Burka has been voted in France, there is an extension of the dilemma, so this post is on what to do with the Burkini.

Here is an image of the modern Burkini- a bathing suit suited to muslim women.



Here is the story of the month: a 35 years old woman in France bought a burkini and called swimming pools  to see who will accept her with it.  One of the people invited her to come as he couldn’t decide without seeing, and she was allowed to jump into the pool. The next day when she came again, they decided her burkini was not up to the hygienic standards and she was refused access to the pool.

If it is clear that they refused her the access for political reasons, there is nevertheless a law that prohibits men’s long swimming suits for the same hygienic reasons. So there is justice in this decision.

But I do think that a step towards tolerance doesn’t hurt. One solution is to keep once or twice a month the afternoon for women in Burkini.  But it’s not so simple, will there be enough clients to justify that move? For all I know, the Burka subject raised a storm in a cup of tea. I saw a Burkaed woman maybe once in the past 10 years. This phenomenon is not as frequent as one may think here.

The other reason I think this subject should be reflected on, is that the women in Burka might just need the time to get from their Burkini, a swimming suit that could be compared to this one of 1900: 



to the more practical and liberating, but less modest Bikini (invented in 1946), which became popular in the sixties with Ursula Andress in James Bond 007.




What do you think?
Definitely ban this outfit from the swimming pool! I don’t think that pools are the most hygienic place anyhow, but imagine what it would become if people were going there with cloths on which just came out of the tube! This debate is more hygienic than political, and I wouldn’t like to think that these leggings have been worn different places, or that the person is hiding a skin disease under all that cloth. There is still the sea and private pools for the burkini.
I don't see how the burkini is that different from what I wear when swimming.  I have fair skin, so I wear a long sleeved, high necked, UV protection shirt and leggings made from a swimsuit-y material.  Many, perhaps even most Australian parents buy their children swimsuits in this style to help protect them from the sun and I have never heard anyone express a hygiene or religious concern about them.  The photo below is a typical example.
The burkini is a great example Julie as as Erica says, it is not so much about hygiene. Hygiene is a good point but men can walk with their boardshorts outside and sit in the metro and you can't do anything about it.
Stricter rules are needed in order to keep the hygiene. Is this girl really planning on swimming in this swimsuit Erica? (Is it a swimsuit?) On the other hand a full length swimsuit is not a problem.

I remember seeing in a Parisian pool many years ago a beautiful women wearing a bathing suit which looked like a cocktail dress. Different from the burkini in that her top was free but most of her body was covered. It was still a very beautiful suit which I doubt anyone would complain about.

I think we have to admit that the issue here is not as much about hygiene but about our sensitivities. There is a reason people go to the pool, and to the seashore, and freedom is part of it.
Suppose people would want to wear S&M gear to the pool, or even on the streets?
A woman wearing a mouth-gag, or a man would wear this:



(I'm not putting a picture of a woman wearing a mouth-gag as I find it too disgusting to want to see it here).
Certainly about the mouth gag you can't claim it should be banned because of hygiene but because it hurts our sensitivities. It's the same reason nudity is usually not allowed, and though I find it silly about nudity as I see nothing offensive about the nude body, I do see something offensive about women being subjugated. And whether they choose to wear the burkini, or are forced to, they are being subjugated.

Would you like to see women go to the pool chained?
The fact that this is supposedly a rule of a major religion doesn't seem to me to be an excuse, as yes, women were subjugated for many years. Besides, nuns don't wear the burkini.

I agree with Debby that they have the sea or private pools they can go to but this shouldn't be allowed in public pools.
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