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Where are the composer's limit?
Where are the composer's limits?
A recent conversation made me realize that I'm permanently in search of
a composer's limits, or to find out how, where, and in what ways, did
they stretch the limits and norms of their days, expanding where no one
did before, thus setting new norms and new limits for the next
generation. As an interpreter I find this a crucial point in
understanding the score as it's important to be able to point it out to
the listener as the composer's personal and unmistakable "signature."

To give a literal example of expansion between Haydn/Mozart and
Beethoven from his middle period - Beethoven's piano has more notes
(between a quint and an octave more). His piano is more powerful and has
more possibilities of colors and registers (see piano pedals post). But
even before these changes in the piano mechanic, if you look at the
"Pathétique" Sonata, which is op.13 and written 1798-99 (so it is still
made for the five octave Viennese), you see that his way of treating the
bass is unlike any way used by Mozart or Haydn. (I especially enjoy
playing this sonata and listening to it with my left ear).
For me, this is an essential reason to study authentic performance, to
be able to understand the limits of each period's instrument and the
choices and preferences of each composer (like Chopin-Pleyel and Liszt-
Erard), and how they burst those limits (like Beethoven did in his early
Sonatas), even making piano manufactures react and develop their mechanics.

How did different composers expand the limits of their time?

How do modern composers burst limits when it is not clear where the
current limits are? (For example, the modern piano has not been
developed in the last 50 years). Which are the areas where limits can
still be searched, examined and expanded by today's composers?
Your question piques my curiosity.  What and when was the last significant development of the piano?

In response to John barri
There are a few different ways to answer that question. In the way I suspect you intended it, the answer would be that there was a flurry of development up through the 1800s that, for the most part, define the modern instrument. Two critical ones: the iron frame allowed for expanded range and power, and the double-escapement action facilitated rapid note-repitition. More recently, a critical--and generally negative--change came when ivory keytops were replaced with plastic ones. The problems that creates are still being worked out.

And there are still innovations being made, but it is difficult, if not impossible, for them to gain a foothold. My own piano, for example, was rebuilt by a local technician, Ed McMorrow, who has developed a technique for modifying a standard piano action such that, in my experience, the touch and tone of the instrument are unequalled. Another local innovator has pattened a mechanism that gives an upright piano action the feel of a grand. (To which I will attest. I've never encountered a comparable upright.) He is reasonably well-known amongst pianists in the area, but neither his nor Ed McMorrow's innovations are likely to become generally adopted. I have heard about experiments elsewhere with creating a quarter-tone piano. I'm afraid I don't remember the name of the experimenter.

It also could be argued that the most important modern changes to the piano is its re-invention as an electronic instrument. One can argue about whether it is still a piano, but certainly electronics eliminate many of the acoustical instrument's limitations. It's interesting to consider the possibility that in the same way that today it is widely accepted that Bach will be played on a modern piano, eventually it may be equally accepted to hear Beethoven performed on electronic ones.

In response to Aaron Malver
Yes - I thought of the electronic piano.  However, I would argue that the touch element of an acoustic instrument cannot be electronically replicated, at least not yet. 
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